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dapooh65
May 14th, 2007, 09:47 AM
Which one is better? If I want to do this project myself, where can I buy these product(s) including the battery back up sump pump system. Thanks in advance.
Huey

stevea
May 28th, 2007, 04:27 PM
We do not recommend either of these products for DIY.

JacobPM
June 9th, 2008, 08:07 AM
I totally wouldn't recommend doing a drain system yourself anyway.

there's way to many variables.
call a professional.
you'll thank yourself later.

rickymartin
October 15th, 2008, 05:56 PM
In my opinion water guard system is best, because the Water Guard system can intercepts water from your basement and drains it to a sump pump located in the lowest spot of your basement, unseen, safely away.


ricky

JacobPM
October 16th, 2008, 08:36 AM
Ricky, in my expeirence is hardly a comparison.

1.) Openings that not only induce clogging from bacteria build up, focus only on the footing/wall joint.

2.) Sits ON the footing which makes it dependant on the slope of the footing to function properly (as we all know all footings are designed to stay level for the house's sake)

3.) Is an open back system which allows for VOCs, Radon, Water Moisture, bugs and other fun things from under your floor or in the water from the footing/wall joint to jump back into your basement.

4.) Is not continous: it's made in 7' pieces which are then joined, cuts need to be made more often than not: this leads to seems that water can seep through, duct tape being used to hold parts together, and shifting of parts during install.

Any drain system needs to be three things: A closed system, able to handle water flow, and pitchable to direct the water to where you want it to go (don't believe me? study roman aquaducts). The drain you suggested Ricky, is none of these things.

JacobPM
October 16th, 2008, 03:33 PM
GrateDrain is the drain designed and manufactured here in the United States by Grate Products LLC.

Pioneer Basement is proud of the innovations that Grate Products has brought to the basement waterproofing industry. As mentioned above, GrateDrain is specifically designed to address the issues that Water Guard doesn't.

1.) Flow: GrateDrain (http://www.grateproducts.com/gdrain.php) has larger holes to allow more water into the drain. If water can't get into the drain, the drain can't remove the water. This is the problem with many pipe and stone systems: Their holes are too small so not enough water can actually get into the pipe to be carried. GrateDrain is designed with punched holes on both walls of the drain. It is sectioned by a solid wall in the middle, which allows for high flow from water under the slab, at the wall/footing cold joint and disallows the water to cross-contaminate.
Having punched holes that are of a specific size removes the possibility of bacteria styled clogs. The gaps are simply too large for the molecules to congeal strong enough to hold a bond when subjected to water.

2.) Closed System: The way that GrateDrain connects with a vapor barrier and is concreted back over seals the system off from the basement environment. No VOC, Bugs, or anything else can jump the drain and come back into the basement space. It creates a sealed system that is maintainable via access ports along the system while still channeling the water away from the water and from under the floor to the GrateSump (http://www.grateproducts.com/gsump.php) and Sump Pump installed.

3.) The entire system is pitch-able. History has taught us from countless civilizations previous engineering feats that water requires a pitch to be successfully moved from one place to another. Our drain rests in front of the foundation footing to catch the water from that direction while independently being able to be pitched to maximize the flow direction of the water. Since water seeks the lowest path of least resistance, a downward angle, open channels, and smooth surface allow for the water to easily find the drain, enter the drain and be removed by gravity to the sump pump location.

4.) The GrateDrain is custom. It's built to fit, built to size of the needed piece. This allows for fewer seams, tighter fits, more control over the pitch of the drain and fewer places to have problems. The corner ports and t-ports are the only places where the drain splits and it's done so in order to create access points where the system can be flushed, maintained and added onto if necessary.

The GrateDrain is a superior design that corrects all the issues with old pipe and stone; drain tile, water guard and dry trak design flaws.